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PostSubject: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 5:34 am

Seeing as Rich gave it away on facebook... May i introduce you all to MSMK2...

And yes, most of you have guessed it... But i'd like to say now Woz copied me, not vice versa.

1991 Rev 1 2.0 N/A MR2... These Ebay images are all i have...

Project Meatsword Mk2... 110

Bought with a hooge hole in the rad, which led to an epically failed headgasket!

28 hours, yes thats 28 HOURS later it finally fired up, although it had some (rather substantial) running issues to begin with, she's now running sweet as!

Going to keep a running total of costs...

Bought it for £425
Heeadgasket/Cambelt etc Parts cost £180
Radiator £180
New Battery £45
Spare Wheels FREE
2 x Rear Toyo's FREE
Rev 3 Downpipe FREE
MOT £40

So running total is currently £870

BUT when it's MOT'd the plate will be sold for £400... so it's only £470 in my mind Razz

Anyway, it's done 120k, has a little service history, it's failed it's MOT on a hole, which i'll teach you all a little get around tomorrow!

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Wheels get all the girls Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:14 am

Sorry Sad
Pretty much everyone knew anyway....thats my excuse and im sticking to it, plus i was tired.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:22 am

well they do now rich!! was fudging brilliant you legend!
for all the none facefuck users

Rich - "how much did it cost to do the headgasket on the MR2"

Stu - "What MR2 you Man Meat"

Woz - " LMFAO...Subtle"

there is one huge difference that mine has that yours hasn't though...boost!!
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:51 am

It could of been any mr2....
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:54 am

And you both copied me Very Happy

Mincers Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 7:08 am

lmao, was waiting for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 7:48 am

Looks tidy in all fairness, and we even get B4T's own red mr2 meet at llandow! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 9:06 am

Lol can't wait for the first convoy!

Or the first track day where i prove you don't need boost to go fast sideways Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 9:19 am

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Lol can't wait for the first convoy!

Or the first track day where i prove you don't need boost to go fast sideways Razz

True but you will probably prove that you need skill to take an mr2 fast sideway Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 10:01 am

Looks nice that mate my turn now red mr2 number 4 coming up Project Meatsword Mk2... 428934
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 11:03 am

Ah god... invasion of the MR2's, we'll have more than fudging 106's or clios at this rate!

Hell of a buy though.... and I was proper having a laugh at Rich's facebook comment Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:25 pm

I might just put a toyota and MR2 badge on my Prelude so I can join in the "new 106" craze...feeling left out Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 6:35 pm

think i'm going to get you all a sheepskin jacket each Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 7:44 pm

Baaa Razz

Anyway, Woz got Jealous.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 10:26 pm

So the MOT epic fail sheet wasn't as bad as you thought it was going to be?
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 10:41 pm

Play in rear Wheel bearings

Epic damage to the OSR where the last bloke clearly span it into a kerb, luckily the hub and arms are reusable, just needs some bushes

Hole in the Sill where it's been repaired badly

Lickily reverse lights don't come into an MOT as it has none

But yeah not too bad Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyWed Nov 03, 2010 11:03 pm

I want to go sideways Smile Please uncle stu Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 2:44 am

so does Stu Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 5:15 am

Stu - dont buy a turbo lump do this Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 5:40 am

Sooo, i've driven it enough now to say the stigma surrounding them is totally undeserved...

It's soooo well balanced, and although i've not pushed it (or myself) to the limits yet, i honestly feel that if it does have a snap point it should be easy enough to hold!
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 6:57 am

I want to see it on the rollers as I think it's got a 130 bhp engine not the original one Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 7:36 am

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Sooo, i've driven it enough now to say the stigma surrounding them is totally undeserved...

It's soooo well balanced, and although i've not pushed it (or myself) to the limits yet, i honestly feel that if it does have a snap point it should be easy enough to hold!

Yep extremely well balance people who listen to the horror stories are missing out!

Those who say these cars have snap oversteer have either never driven one or should learn and understand how to drive a mid-engined car first.

Having said that you better have your head screwed on when its wet especially in a turbo when you have 280bhp+ going to the rear tyres.

Or cheap nasty tyres, my old 170bhp N/A was worse than the tubby when on poopoo tyres. (Now my dry weather track tyres lol)



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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 7:42 am

Oh woz im not trying to scare you lol with your current poopoo tyres Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 8:23 am

TBH i'm more let down by the UBER understeer!
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 8:27 am

lol stu somethings wrong then.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 8:51 am

Watching from 6:50

If you was to plant the throttle when tiff lifts im guessing it would understeer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shwgNV36xFA
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:00 am

If it does you need an lsd and a turbo lol

Although l have to be honest l never found understeer to be a problem with my n/a and yours being a rev1 should have less understeer than a rev 3 lol. Not to mention your rear tyres are only 205 when they should be 225.

Personally ld get it lowered and the tyres around 32psi front and 36psi rear and take it from there mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:09 am

It seems to understeer hard under power, maybe if i lift it'll swing round a little more!
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:11 am

standard springs on it?
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:13 am

Yup, totally standard bar the downpipe!

As it is i think it'll corner well, and fast. But i want to go sideways and fast Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:15 am

you know all those track-day briefings, where they talk about drifting being the slow way to corner....... yeah........ Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:19 am

Ahem it's not drifting. Drifting is homosensual.

This is for powersliding.

Operative term being power.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:21 am

swiftly followed by inoperative as a result of the sliding?

Maybe a play with spring rates would solve the under-steer, cheap enough to not bust the budget and you can always sell them on if it doesn't do the job
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:25 am

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It seems to understeer hard under power, maybe if i lift it'll swing round a little more!

Not being in the car its hard to say but you probably need to be going faster around the bend and closer to the limit. You will probably find your just pushing the front wide under hard power because the rear has so much grip + your weight transfer has just gone to the rear. Tbh honest this is when more power is usful so you can "loosen" the rear end up a bit.

When both ends are on the limit you shouldnt find this to be a problem stu.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 9:38 am

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Yup, totally standard bar the downpipe!

As it is i think it'll corner well, and fast. But i want to go sideways and fast Sad

lol you need an lsd then.

Only way to do it in a n/a is lifting off on corner entry, bit of power mid corner and exiting sideways Very Happy
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fudge it. It just needs more power Razz
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Lmao Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 10:12 am

Did all turbos run LSD'd?

If so i've just found my next purchase...

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Was an option on rev1-2 and standard on rev 3-5

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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 10:15 am

Damn.

Maybe i should just drive it first Razz
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yeh around rockingham lol
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PostSubject: Re: Project Meatsword Mk2...   Project Meatsword Mk2... EmptyThu Nov 04, 2010 11:04 am

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Play in rear Wheel bearings

So you've found another let down with the japanese market (standard lights being the first)... Rear wheel bearings having play is common on a jap car where a slightly worn out bearing has been left to long, and often new bearings dont take up the play due to the materials they use in manufactoring the hubs/shafts. This is because the bearing casing being harder than the hub/shaft, and if it locks it wears everything but the bearing case (useful idea hey!). New bearings will take most if not all the play out tho Smile Just something for the jap owners to watch out for (i should know... i've got to change the rear hubs on my gto due to the bearings spun, let alone how ever many cars i've done rear wheel bearings on and the play not been fully taken out).

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Orrrrrrr...

I'll just run it till they colaspe. Simples Razz
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lmao which is the option I know he will choose, Stu what advice do we always say to people drive it and see how it feels first...change things after.
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what's the rear suspension on these like?

I know on the Integra a lot of the guys on the forums recommend just building up new components with bearings & uprated bushes so you can swap them over without having to hack the old bushes out
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Just a little update, now tax and mot'd, going to get some miles on it before i put my trust in it totally, but all going well so far!
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