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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:27 pm | |
| Thought i might post up a few pics of my current toy... 1991 Honda City PGM-FI CZi It's a 1.3 SOHC 16v, 100bhp (book power) and 680kg (again book weight). The CZi came with a Cussco LSD as standard, and A/C It shares a LOT of Running gear with the civic, (hence the silly wide arches to accomadate the civic steering rack)... i've got some 2006 Civic Type R brakes going on when i can afford the discs According to Honda only 142 were imported... I'll keep this thread updated with the progress | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:27 pm | |
| Well from finally getting it out on track, i know now... A) It's still factory limited to 110mph B) It's AWESOME out of the corners (pushing 90% of big power stuff in the bends) C) It REALLY looses out on the straights D) Corners like its on rails, but body roll is silly!!! The answer??? Coilovers and BOOOOOOOOOOOST | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:28 pm | |
| Weighed it this morning... Partially stripped, half tank of petrol 672kilos | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:28 pm | |
| Also now decided it doesnt need the civic brakes... it was locking up at combe, with its lack of weight i don't think big brakes will do anything.
Just going to replace it with some decent spec standards... if i can find any... | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:29 pm | |
| Just ordered a short shifter from america... £15 including taxes... guess we'll see | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:30 pm | |
| Sooooo... after the i bodged the standard rad fan onto a civic rad (which is a good 3 inches bigger both ways) the fan sliced through the bottom hose... Went for a walk over to forge motor sport (litterly accross the road from me) and traded £80 for this little lot... Normal retail would have been £130 plus VAT... BARGIN Also got another civic rad from work and mounted a 9 inch slimlie fan to it... So now hopfully the cooling system is sorted... Quickshift also fitted, makes a HUGE difference! Next??? Blue h/t leads to match the pipes | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:30 pm | |
| Bonus... just found a nice billet alloy feul rail with civic injectors... Guess what i just fitted | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:33 pm | |
| Dash has come out (only so i can sort out the aweful wiring) as has the carpet and most of the sound deadening Custom making a set of carbon fibre dials out of a bit of Zonda wing Also got round to fitting the OMP bonnet pins, so now i can chop the slam panel off to make way for the BOOOOST | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:34 pm | |
| Sooo it turns out 45psi fuel pressure isnt good for an unmapped car... electronics have gone tits, can't be bothered to work it out so here we come... 2.0 SOHC 16v VTEC City Type R | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:40 am | |
| it's an utter shed but by god I would have one. | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:49 pm | |
| Struggling to choose now...
1.5 VTEC, lighter but only 110bhp as standard,
2.0 VTEC, heaiver, 147bhp as standard more tunable? But may make it rather front heavy...
Thoughts? | |
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Sez Learner
Number of posts : 30 Age : 36 Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:39 am | |
| Oh lordy you're going to kill yourself haha!!.... ....please dont | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:34 pm | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:41 pm | |
| granted I do hope you prove me wrong | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:37 pm | |
| Hmmm... after doing a bit of research... the 1.5 VTEC civic has a clutch position sensor...
A WHAT????? | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:07 pm | |
| trust the japs to be different. | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:40 pm | |
| Ahhhhhh... Herroooo... | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:54 pm | |
| Yes thankyou You can come pick them up tomorrow if you want | |
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James Can handle a Powerslide
Number of posts : 1204 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:07 pm | |
| or you can drop it off to me in your van | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:28 am | |
| After me and Alex had a quick session between rain showers yesterday we came up with this... Just a rough idea of the layout... oil cooler sat in play in the wing and turbo roughly where it will sit (you'll be able to see it through the bumper... PIMP) Playing with a few intercoolers later | |
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James Can handle a Powerslide
Number of posts : 1204 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:58 am | |
| nice Turbo..... looks like a saab to me... | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:00 pm | |
| Booost... Won't be quite so sticky outy | |
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Burp Semi-Pro
Number of posts : 417 Age : 46 Location : Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire Registration date : 2008-08-13
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:39 am | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:29 pm | |
| Nothing much happening at the moment... Spun the impellor housing round so the outlet goes stright up... Also welded the internal wastegate shut... Left to do... Fabricate a downpipe, pipe in the internal fuel tank, buy and work out all boost piping, oh, and fit the engine | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:56 am | |
| Glup... | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:44 pm | |
| Just to warn you, this post is going to get quite nerdy...
Been doing some major headscratching over th past couple of day... working out compression ratios.
In Basic form, the 1.5 CR is 9.6:1 (The Block i'm using)
The 1.6 is 9.2:1 (The VTEC head i'm using)
Combining the 1.5 block with the 1.6 head give me approx 8.8:1
Now i've been told on a small engine like this, the CR to aim for is 8:1... Using a 1.2mm Decompression plate will bring it down to 7.8:1... which i have a feeling may be a tad laggy...
Ideas??? | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:58 am | |
| Who'd like to hazzard a guess at what i'm building now... | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:51 am | |
| a smoothie machine? go with the 8.8:1 will be more user friendly. | |
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jezer101 Learner
Number of posts : 97 Age : 36 Location : Ross on wye/Newent Registration date : 2008-08-14
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:12 am | |
| They come with LSD standard!
Cool build can't wait to see this in action at brands. | |
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Ronnie Learner
Number of posts : 30 Age : 43 Registration date : 2008-09-25
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:44 am | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:22 am | |
| Been a tad slow... bit of progress... Motasport rims innit... Switchboard... | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:13 am | |
| lmao looks cool i see the most important buttons are missing though | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:16 am | |
| Sticking them in tomorrow | |
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Ronnie Learner
Number of posts : 30 Age : 43 Registration date : 2008-09-25
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:55 am | |
| Its gonna be next year but I really wanna see this thing on the go | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:09 am | |
| It'll be running for brands...
Apparently | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:21 pm | |
| Lmao... Well hopefully Alex is going to get Katherine to scrap off all the tar on the floor for me today Evry step is a small step closer | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:30 am | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:45 pm | |
| Slave boys | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:18 pm | |
| To do list for the weekend... - Finish Removing Engine and Box
- Remove all excess from engine bay
- Bypass heating system
- De-tar footwells
- Put the front bumper on a diet
- Wire in ECU
- Make mounts for i/c, oil cooler and rad
- Mount battery
- Remove OE fuel tank
- Plumb in internal tank
- Mount and wire in the new 'dash'
- Tidy wiring loom
- Clean it
I reccomend we split into 3 teams, Alpha, Bravo and Tango. I'll be Alpha and tackle the harder jobs, Woz and MGM can be Bravo team and do the other jobs, Tango team will make the tea. | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:11 pm | |
| LMAO I'll do the bumper, pass me the grinder!!
LMFAO at Tango team | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:31 am | |
| More stuff... - Finish Removing Engine and Box
- Remove all excess from engine bay
- Bypass heating system
- De-tar footwells
- Put the front bumper on a diet
- Wire in ECU
- Make mounts for i/c, oil cooler and rad
- Mount battery
- Remove OE fuel tank
- Plumb in internal tank
- Mount and wire in the new 'dash'
- Tidy wiring loom
- Clean it
- Down the scrappie and find a fuel pump
- Fit said fuel pump
- Work out how to fit headlights no there is a intercooler in the way
- Drink copious more amouts of vodka[
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:39 pm | |
| Finish Removing Engine and Box
Remove all excess from engine bay
Bypass heating system
- De-tar footwells
Put the front bumper on a diet
- Wire in ECU
Make mounts for i/c, oil cooler and rad
- Mount battery
Remove OE fuel tank
- Plumb in internal tank
- Mount and wire in the new 'dash'
Tidy wiring loom
- Clean it
- Down the scrappie and find a fuel pump
- Fit said fuel pump
Work out how to fit headlights no there is a intercooler in the way
Drink copious more amouts of vodka
Getting there | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:56 am | |
| Sooo... progress has been silly slow of late... Failed to make it to brands... But watching the cars has made me want to get it done asap... Engine is in the process of being built, and i'm still hoarding parts like a mad man. Watch this space! | |
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woz_106 Moderators
Number of posts : 5169 Age : 37 Location : in the middle of the road, facing the wrong way Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:56 am | |
| haha you genuinly looked down at brands because you wasn't driving...can't wait till we are all out on track at the same time. | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:34 am | |
| Mate i was nearly in tears watching the speed the near standard civic was lapping.
I WANT IT NOW!!! | |
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Norledge Admin
Number of posts : 7510 Age : 36 Location : Cheltenham Registration date : 2008-07-03
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:50 pm | |
| Glup...
Headset £78.31+ Cambelt kit £42.20+ Big End Bearings £45.23+ Piston Rings £31.45+ Aux Belt £6.35+ Waterpump £37.13+ Sparks £1.69+ Oil Filter £2.89+ Exedy Clutch... TBC | |
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MGM Track God
Number of posts : 2841 Age : 42 Registration date : 2008-07-05
| Subject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:26 am | |
| you best hope santa is feeling generous | |
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