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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 2:46 am

Headset ordered, so at least can start now!!!

Also stole an idea off Jay (Burp) with this...

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Citroen ZX wiper linkage... Single wiper = Less weight and more pimp value Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 10:20 am

I thought you seamed rather interested in that
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 9:28 pm

Embarassed

Just a bit Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 9:47 pm

Cool stuff dude, am I going to see this next year?

Also what have you done to the fuel tank? Fitted a new/uprated one?
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 10:25 pm

Yeah got an internal one... bigger than i'd hoped but i got it for free so i can complain... and it mean the exhaust won't knock on the tank under the car now Very Happy

It will be ready for haynes, and as long as i don't blow it up you'll see it everywhere Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 11:07 pm

Ahh mate thats well good.
I was looking into this generally (priced up the tank and swirl pot). But was told not to bother?

I reckon its a worth while mod if you plan to run the car on track mainly. Also move the
weight more to the rear of the car..
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 11:24 pm

TBH i wouldn't have bothered if the tank wasn't free from work Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 13, 2008 1:30 am

Fair enough lol.

Did you do all the fittings yourself? Hard job to do?
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 13, 2008 1:35 am

Drill the floor, stick the bolts through Wink

Using a cavalier external pump strapped to the floor and an aftermarket pressure reg.
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 13, 2008 3:08 am

You are Mr Focus/DIY.
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 13, 2008 3:10 am

I like to call it Bodgeneering. It's the Future.
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 13, 2008 4:21 am

Ah...

New engine Flywheel...
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City clutch on fly... uhoh... it's a bit small...
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City Box...
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City Box with the civic clutch... Too big in diameter and on the splines...
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Problem i have now is this... I need to use the 1.3 City box which runs a 190mm clutch.

But i'm thinking a 190mm clutch won't handle anymore power than standard... and you try finding and uprated clutch for what is basically a honda concerto 1.3...

Only other option i have is to swap the bell housings (which is also the diff casing) and the imput shaft...

Ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 15, 2008 8:52 am

decided what to do yet?
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 15, 2008 7:03 pm

You know me though, don't want to spend too much on something you know i'm going to blow up Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 15, 2008 7:49 pm

And no, i've not decided yet... more worryied about the fact the NS engine mount is totally different and i'm going to have to bodge... AGAIN
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 15, 2008 8:53 pm

cable ties & marine chain.
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 16, 2008 3:12 am

alex you are clearly spending to much time with Stu when you come up with that suggestion Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 8:28 pm

Got bored and Angle Grinder Happy on sunday...

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Soo much lighter! Polycarbs up next Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 8:41 pm

got it running?
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 8:46 pm

Wasn't suppose to be work on the City day yesterday Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 9:21 pm

Burp wrote:
got it running?

No engine..... weight saving Wink
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already in my favorites Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 14, 2009 3:21 am

Any updates Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 14, 2009 3:30 am

Shhhun. Progress is slow, Engine mounts are a pain Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 14, 2009 4:45 am

bounce Brummmm brummmm
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 14, 2009 10:22 pm

cough Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 15, 2009 6:56 am

Engine mounts are doing my head in... so i've moved to moved onto more important things... sanding and painting the rocker cover :-P
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 15, 2009 8:03 am

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Engine mounts are doing my head in... so i've moved to moved onto more important things... sanding and painting the rocker cover :-P


ohhh you really have your priorities sorted don't you? Rolling Eyes Laughing
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TBF the rocker does look sexy....
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 03, 2009 8:04 am

cool i like this , just read the volvo 480 build , trying to find aan idea for an interesting trackday car my self , how about a vetech powered mg maestro ? not that crazy as they came with a honda gearbox so may mate to a vetech lump , revvy is best for a track car .
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 04, 2009 2:56 am

If you want random, but still quite easy you're best starting with a car with a relatively balanced, and well handling base, you're never going to make a good car out of a mondeo without serious work...

I always fancied a volvo 340... rwd, light (for a volvo) and very different...

Or maybe a Charade Turbo??
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 06, 2009 10:14 pm

Right so i may as well come clean, as most of you know or have guessed Razz

I had been spending sleepless nights trying to work out how to get this chuffing engine mated to the box and into the car... i could think of no feasable way of doing it.

Decided to start looking into cages instead to take my mind off the pain.

£700 for a custom, welded in...

Then it struck me... I've got a mate who builds Class 8 autograss buggies... like this one...

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Hmm...

So off i pop up to his workshop... 'How much to cage this?'

£300... Less than Half the price of a custom cage!!!

Then he throws a real spanner in the works...

'Could weld some engine mounts in the back for £50 too...'

£350 for a space frame??? How could I say no??

After abut 30 seconds thought, and pursuasion for Alex i decided on it... Rear engined RWD...

But what engine?

Next day comes, and into work i go... thinking of what i have i could use...

M3... 6 pot, yummy... too heavy and complex...

Volvo 1.7 Turbo, Light, boosted, but old fashioned...

Then walking out into the yard this catches my eye...
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1990 Kawisaki ZX10... Quick google shows me 140bhp, 13000 rpm, 6 speed sequential box, and light enough to pick up buy one person.

A quick exchange of £500, and i'm the proud owner of a mobile death machine.

Couple of hours later i'm left with a pile of parts and...
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Slight build on the engine, sparks, filter, Heavy duty clutch springs and a new (different pitch) front sprocket. Mixed with a fresh coat of paint.

So thats the engine sorted... Luckily my internal tanks fits nicly where the engine should be...
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Open the bonnet to fill the tank... pimp.

Rear suspension time...

Luckily i have one of these...
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Mmm, Early Ninties Luxuary Granadaness...

Needed from it... Rear lower arms, Rear Hubs, Diff and rear driveshafts.

That done time to build the custom chain driven diff... pics to follow.
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 10, 2009 8:53 am

so you going bike engined then should be fun .like the rear drive idea seen a few bike engined minis running this kind of setup .
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Early birthday prezzie Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 11, 2009 9:15 am

ooooo i do like Cool
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Cant wait to see more progress, really liking this idea Much better than the honda mash up
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and it's all my fault Razz hahahah
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and it's all my fault Razz hahahah

I still hate you.

Diff is being built later... pics to follow...
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any more progress?
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Lol.
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Finaly... PROGRESS!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 8:09 am

Holy F**k, no going back now
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cool reckon it will be ready by 25th apri?
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If Fred Flintstone made 911's
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2009 12:29 am

Decided on a bit of Diff play today...

Take one 2.9 Granada Cosworth Rear Limited Slip diff... The theory is to strip to the diff and bolt a sprocket to the crown wheel...
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Remove Output flanges
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Remove bearing carriers... this has kind of stalled the progress... seized solid... fire axe time!
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PostSubject: Re: Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City   Project WTF??? - 1991 Honda City - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 21, 2009 12:38 am

What on earth?!


You seriously are the mad scientist dude.
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I have to put up with this 9 hours a day mon-fri.
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question . do you have to have to sva this once done or are you not putting on road.
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