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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:01 am

Well decided it was worth a couple of hours as it was that or watching tv! Just the other 3 to do!

Luckily I used my phone's camera. I didn't paint the inside of the wheel as...well I couldn't be bothered and it doesn't look like my usual high standards up close but who's going to be looking closely at a track day!
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:04 am

Hopefully the wheels will be goin to fast to notice anyways Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:09 am

Exactly, just thought I liked the idea of keeping the red and black theme going on my car! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:09 am

Looks cool mate good job
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nellers2001 wrote:
well I couldn't be bothered!

Welcome to the B4T mindset Razz

Wheels look cool... would match a carbon sunroof plate nicely Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:15 am

Nah...wanted carbon before but too expensive with a baby on the way so removing all trace of the sunroof and then welding up the hole and either sprayed black or carbon look vinyl wrap. Not sure yet and depends upon money situation when I do it! Carbon sunroofs are somewhere near £300 I think for a new one and 2nd hand ones are very hard to come by!
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:20 am

Wheels look awesome mate, whats the name of the place your using for the geo, I think if I remember rightly there is a place not far north from me that is rated well on s2ki I can try and find them if you like?

Just abit far for you...
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 8:37 am

Wheels look good.

Did you look around for gauge pod mounted pillar trim? Forgot where i bought mine from but looked just like the origional trim and weren't all too expensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 09, 2010 9:05 am

Thanks woz. Prob to far, there is a place called performance autoworks over gloucester way but want to try and get it done abit closer to home.

I did look into those masher but nothing for my car. I will mod the one I have as it's original trim and try to make it as oem looking as possible!
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 10, 2010 1:02 am

well u owe me a spin in that car, aint been out in it for like a year!! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 1:55 am

test fitted my hammerited wheels today. think they look alright!

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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 2:22 am

wheels upside down look... H is wrong way up....
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 3:50 am

Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 6:14 am

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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 6:30 am

They'll do as my track wheels. Had the geometry done on sat to. Toe on both fronts was out and toe on drivers rear was also well out after changing the subframe! Drives really well now though, definite improvement!
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You may have to change the geometry again after what you just munched at my house fatty Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 132183
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 6:54 am

Look awesome! Those pics make it look a really dark red drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 7:12 am

Does look good, nice and purposeful now!

Explain to me what you've done to the subframe Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 7:56 am

removed the rear wheel steer subframe, ecu, wiring harness etc and replaced with a fixed rear wheel position subframe(converting it to only front wheel steering). this now stops the rear wheels from turning to aid turning, but saves a *uc* load of weight from the (mainly rear end)
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 7:57 am

allignment wise, they all point the correct way now. similar to tracking, but with all different angles like how far the top of the wheel points in or out, how far forward or backwards the hub is from the mounts, and the tracking.

p.s. sorry for ruining your reply sam Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 7:59 am

Cheers for that!

Quite a lot of progress gone on then, sounds really good
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Those wheels have made a massive change to the look. Very nice!

Looking forward to some track action now? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyMon Jun 14, 2010 7:50 pm

Its guna break down on the 1st lap after all the piss takin hes done about my French crap Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 15, 2010 12:43 am

May well break down but at least it starts and has 16 wheel nuts Wink

Definitely looking forward to my first trackday, ready to destroy the 4 new tyres I got with the wheels...although after playing the other day hope it doesn't rain, not sure these tyres will cope!
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nellers2001 wrote:
May well break down but at least it starts and has 16 wheel nuts Wink

Definitely looking forward to my first trackday, ready to destroy the 4 new tyres I got with the wheels...although after playing the other day hope it doesn't rain, not sure these tyres will cope!


At least mine stays the same colour lol!
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Bring it on Laughing Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 886112
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 20, 2010 7:26 am

Only a little update, washed the car, cleaned off the old oil from the leaks I fixed in the engine bay and fitted my fire extinguisher. After some horror stories of people's cars setting on fire thought it better safe than sorry!

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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 20, 2010 10:04 am

Just dont go pissing off a passenger lol

Like the sig btw
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Don't let me passenger what ever you do...I tried to deploy a kite at 85mph down the m42 in stu's disco because I was bored Laughing
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85mph Shocked

oh wait we dont have any speed police Very Happy
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end of the day who's going to believe the disco can do 85mph Laughing

anyway back on topic...sorry nellers

what other jobs you got left for llandow now mate?
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Yeah passengers will have to steer clear of the extinguisher Very Happy and woz you've just made me make up my mind that you now aren't allowed in my car! Nothing really left to do as such, just need to make shell shares bigger and fill my jerry cans up with fuel in preparation for burning it very quickly!

Thanks Adam, had a play on the computer yesterday!
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Well after an eventful day at Llandow on track I will need to start making some improvements to my car...mainly keeping the coolant a little cooler!

Waiting to sort out a cooling plate which mounts in the gap inbetween the slam panel and front bumper to stop air flow coming up under the bonnet, and in theory forces more of the air straight through the rad!

Also noticed the other day that when changing the wheels back to my road wheels I have had some rubbing issue on my front offside brake line?! Seems something has rubbed on it and worn through the PVC outer coating in a 2cm length. Not gone through the braiding but need to work out what's done it and get a replacement line...booo, they are only couple months old!

Anyway I have started my spending spree before the baby arrives and I have no money left! Over the last couple of days had a couple of parcels...and each time the wife asks, "Is that something for the baby?" and my answer, "Urrrmmm yeeessss, my baby not our baby though!".

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Had through 30m of graphite impregnated exhaust wrap with 16 stainless ties (should be enough for the manifold, and downpipe. Sandwich plate, oil temp and pressure gauges, new rear pads (not needed yet but for when they are), and a compression tester (just a useful tool).

Also may have found a spare JDM 2.2 vtec engine, in parts so it's easy to move and store but all complete and working when removed for £80...yes that's right 197BHP engine for £80!! Very Happy Just need to organise getting it from Chester...Jaaammmeeesssss!
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 15, 2010 3:42 am

if you happen to come across another one of those engines let me know pleeeeeeeeease Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 15, 2010 3:44 am

LOL will do!!

Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet. May just keep it boxed in the back of the garage and if I have a spare couple of quid every so often buy it some goodies to rebuild in a forged manner Wink Or if I don't have any spare money just keep it incase something on mine pops!
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Put it in the 6?? Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 932386
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 15, 2010 3:55 am

what engine code is it out of curiosity?
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H22A. I'm sure people fit them to the Integra's as more BHP and torque...mixed with the type-R chassis and lack of weight = Twisted Evil
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sacrifice the high RPM limit though Sad horses for courses I guess. Tis a bargain at that price!
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 15, 2010 4:27 am

how high does the Teg go, mine doesn't have a limiter and will go to 8.5k but I don't take it past 8k as engine balanced at 8.5k so not so good for it after a while!!
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just shy of 9k on the Teg and can go higher with something like k-pro without work.
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9k is pretty high. Do you know what rpm the engine is balanced at? I was thinking of upgrading the valve train on the spare engine if I get it, would mean nice high revving and no chance of going bang then! All pipe dreams as would need a fair wack of money but would like to upgrade valve train, forge bottom end, baffled sump, mapped and a turbo. 250bhp at the wheels easily achievable then, with a bomb proof engine as well! Ah we can all dream!
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Then your old engine in my 6 Twisted Evil
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9k... is that it!? Wink
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My dads vtec redlines at 11750 rpm.

But then to be fair it is a bike...
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they're balanced at 8700 I believe, vtec on paper kicks in at 5700 but mine seems to come on at 6.

dont forget the b18's have a steel crank, most people seem to say that you only really need to forge if you're going for massive power (guy on the ITR forums has forged and boosted & is getting something like 450hp and same again lb/ft of torque)

if you're rebuilding it you might find this site useful;
http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

and this magazine in the US looks good, the website has lots of techy articles that make for good reading
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/index.html
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PostSubject: Re: Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude   Nellers2001: JDM 2.2 vtec Prelude - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 16, 2010 3:32 am

Cheers for the links. The only problem with forging the H22 engine is it used FRM liners in the bore (fibre reinforced metal - basically a carbon fibre metal composite) which means you either need special pistons (only 2 manufacturers I know about in the USA) or sleeve the block and then use any forged pistons!

Vtec on the H22 is supposed to be 5600 from stock but had a chip on my ECU which brings mine down to 5k and also removed the Jap 112mph limiter!
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Sam, have you ever looked into the Moates Ostrich??

Remappable on the fly EPROM emulator, using a programme like CROME to map on the laptop as you're driving! Costs about £300, but well worth it.

Allows manual adjustment of VTEC and Rev limiter Very Happy
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s2000 vtec, with some choice bits a few people in america are running just over 12k rpm Very Happy
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