Dave-R's 2002 Quiksilver - C2 race engine - 196bhp @ 8000rpm

Spent the entire day at Pug1Off.

Car went through MOT. It did pass! But I had the rear beam replaced. Stu heard the noises coming from the back at Rockingham and a few others probably did too when they had a passenger ride. Plus the ARB constantly coming loose (I could just pull it out after undoing the ARB end plate bolt).

So now I have discs instead of drums, poly bush beam mounts and no play! Also had it lowered a tiny bit more to try to eliminate some of the back end wiggle that I get under hard braking.

Matt at Pug1Off also found the timing was slightly out. Exhaust was out by 2-3 degrees. That'll probably explain some of the difficulties I had. It may just be in my head but it seems to pull better now. On the downside the idle doesn't sound quite as lumpy but the bangs from the exhaust are much more violent

Nice spending spree then dave

That is a lot of stuff

Yeah, Jenny could have purchased several designer bags

Or a trackcar of her own?

This is true. Every time we come back from a trackday she talks about getting a kit car!

I know where theres a rolling chassis for £200

Jenny can buy the saxo.....

how much she got to spend?

I can't see her in anything less than a v8 tbh woz she's used to more power than most of our cars put together

MGM wrote:

I can't see her in anything less than a v8 tbh woz she's used to more power than most of our cars put together

All torques and no corners

Not really progress but I handed the car over to my local mechanic to try to fix all the leaks. Driveshaft seal replaced so it's not sharting gearbox oil. Replaced a few oil seals and it doesn't seem to be peeing as much engine oil out any more.

Want to get hold of a quaife, for when I blow my diff up again. TBs are on the cards.

Got Bedford GT, Llandow, Snetterton and Goodwood lined up for 2011 already.

fucking hell dave thats quite a few days when you add oulton and angelsey to the list

where does the evo fit in between these?

Oulton and Angelsey will be added when dates are confirmed Want to go back to Brands and wouldn't mind doing Rockingham again.

Evo one day. Don't worry! Still love driving the 106 on track at the moment. There's still more potential and I've not found the cars limits just yet. When its got a quaife in there, on bodies, mapped and it doesn't excite me I'll know that it's time to move on to something else.

Dave-R wrote:

Oulton and Angelsey will be added when dates are confirmed Want to go back to Brands and wouldn't mind doing Rockingham again.

Evo one day. Don't worry! Still love driving the 106 on track at the moment. There's still more potential and I've not found the cars limits just yet. When its got a quaife in there, on bodies, mapped and it doesn't excite me I'll know that it's time to move on to something else.

Just dont try and sell it at xmas mate coz they dont sell at xmas do they woz

Might have to steal your quaife diff when you get one to be honest! List is sounding epic.

jamesy haha your wrong I got no interest in October and November have had four different people email me so far! I can't really get my head round it.

Spent the last two Saturday morning's up at Pug1Off.

First weekend I had the Quaife ATB diff fitted, along with a machined flywheel and an aluminium pulley on the other end.

The flywheel that went on wasn't for me but mine didn't come back in time. This flywheel had been machined for a race engine designed to rev up to 11k. So it wasn't as light as mine would have been but it had to do. Unfortunately after fitting, the clutch was slipping. Matt at Pug1Off thought it was probably a height difference in the flywheel and it would have been OK if they'd changed the centre plate.

So went back this weekend and they changed the flywheel and it's now spot on. Whilst I was waiting, Matt took me down to a charity rolling road event with some other Pug1Off cars. Had a 306 Rallye with a GTi6 engine, forged internals, cammed and bodies that made 270bhp and a lot of noise!

This is all I have to show for my two weekends:



Trackday is now required ASAP. Thinking of doing Mallory either this month or next to see how it handles.

It feels like the L&B flywheel has transformed the car though. So much more "get up and go" when you put your foot down. I can feel the difference the Quaife has made too but this'll really come in to its own on track.

Was thinking about getting a cage around October time but this needs some careful thought. Bolt in or weld in. And taking in to consideration I've got a sunroof which makes things more awkward.

But I think next on the list are some DS3000 pads to replace the DS2500's and some Tarox discs. I've somehow managed to warp a disc and the brake judder is awful. I was concerned the DS3000's might be utter turd for road use but I was out in a Pug1Off 205 GTi6 today that had DS3000's and they seemed fine.

Nice list of things done Dave although not sure the lanyard is a fair deal for all that money!!

The lightened flywheel in the Lude was one of the best things I've done to it, revs so much more freely and never had a problem with the loss of rotational mass from the standard one on hills that some people think is the case! What weight flywheel did you get in the end?

I'm in the same boat with the gearbox, only been out for a short drive today as need to bed the brakes in but probably won't get to see the benefit of the new LSD until a trackday!

The lanyard will be used to tie things on when they fall off. So it'll get my money's worth out of it!

I had to keep checking what gear I was in because it revs so much easier now. To be honest, I was so busy talking about other things I forgot to ask how much they took off! I'll try to find out though as you're the second person to ask.

Tomorrow I'm getting less brrrap and fitting a new centre section with a silencer. It completely ruins a trackday when you have to take it easy because you're too noisy. Unfortunately the new centre section weighs an absolute ton compared to the race pipe. So I'll have to find something else to remove to compensate.

Nice purchase on the Quaife, a trip to Mallory would certainly put it through it's paces!

I've had a right crappy end to the week, so to cheer myself up I have one of these coming:



Worked out the wiring for it, so for my own reference:

Wires from OMSLS:
Black = Earth
Red = Switched live
Blue = Pin 6 on black plug of dials (rev counter)

The light block can be mounted inside the dials, between the speedo and rev counter, like this:



Since having the L&B flywheel I'm constantly finding the limiter. Hits 5k and it's away. The alternative is to get the rev limit moved up a bit

Edit: If you're reading this because you've done a Google search on wiring an Omex sequential shift light in to your 106/Saxo, note that I've got digital dials. If you have digital dials, it's pin 6 on the black connector that's the rev counter. If you've got analogue dials I think you'll want pin 1 on the yellow connector.

I take you've found a huge difference with the lighter flywheel then...? Might order myself one up as suspension has to wait as parents are nicking my money to move! Did you find out the weight of your one? I was looking at one that came in around 3kg... :-D

Progress! Of sorts.

Omex sequential shift light is in.

I've still not found out how much weight was taken off my flywheel. I keep forgetting to ask.

New Supersprint centre section with silencer fitted. Exhaust is very quiet now. Don't like it but I should have no issues on track with it.

Booked Mallory for this weekend. Should be a good test of the Quaife! Started the usual track day prep work this weekend. Haven't found any surprises yet either.

Ordered a new Green filter as the one I've got has been on the 106 since day 1 and it's pretty knackered.

And these were on my desk this morning, to be fitted tomorrow:



Along with some DS3000 pads.

Probably the next thing on my shopping list will be a Satchshift. For those of you outside the 106/205 circle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPP8trIYM_8

Completely replaces the gear linkage system, including the gear level. Completely removes all the play. Looks like a sequential shifter too but probably shouldn't use it like one or the MA gearbox will poo itself

Great progress, i love the look of the Satchshift kit.

The Satchshift does look an awesome bit of kit!

I saw you were at Mallory last weekend in the Saxo. How did it go? And tips?

Fitted. Just waiting on new air filter now which should be with me tomorrow, I hope.



Although the discs/pads (either or) has made the caliper slightly more proud and the wheel weights catch ever so slightly. Not enough to rip them off but enough that it makes a clicking sound on each revolution. I'm hoping it'll wear down and be OK otherwise I'll need to grind the caliper slightly.

Of course, I could just get some 15" alloys and get bigger calipers! And semi-slicks

Satchshift will be the best addition you will make to your car, transforms the way you drive its awesome.

Dave-R wrote:

The Satchshift does look an awesome bit of kit!

I saw you were at Mallory last weekend in the Saxo. How did it go? And tips?

Were you there by chance? Ive put some photo's up in the past track days section. Quite a challenging circuit with all the chicanes added, though having stapletons in does ruin the run through gerrards abit especially when your in something when you can really feel the change of weight under braking. My only issue with the circuit from a track day point of view was going into the hairpin, with a few cars out ahead it got abit like queing to enter a carpark rather then pretending your Senna.

Be well worth a B4T outing there though.

Masher wrote:

Were you there by chance?

No, I saw some pictures on Facebook I'll be there this Saturday in the 106 though.

Nice

open pit track day? One of the smoothest circuits ive driven on in ages!

Yep, open pit. First event I've done with Javelin as well. So new track and new organisers. Really looking forward to it. Especially the hairpin! Keep checking the weather as I don't trust the Northern climate But it looks OK at the moment.

nice bit of progress dave, haven't read your thread for abit and the 106 has come on a treat since I saw/drove it at brands. Well done

best of luck at mallory aswell, I love that track...It's fairly basic compared to what you've done but a cracking day out non the less. also can you note how fast you go round gerrards for me?

You're still around Woz! Welcome back

Just posted up a thread on my trip to Mallory. Quickest I exited Gerrards was 90mph when I glanced down. I wanted more and I should have tried selecting 4th mid-corner to see what happened. I was running out of revs in 3rd. More grippy tyres would have helped a lot too (with my confidence to push that little bit more!).

But as per my Mallory thread, I have permission to get bodies. So that'll be this year, most likely mid-July at the moment.

Right. Plans have changed... slightly.

If I'm going to get bodies I need one cam changed as I've got cambi cams so that it idles without issue etc on standard management (the exhaust is milder). So if I've got to have one cam changed to a Newman PH3, I was thinking it probably makes sense to just go to Newman PH4's and then I've got a bit more scope for the future. Otherwise if I want more power I'm going to have to get the cams changed yet again.

The problem with PH4's is the valve to piston clearance isn't enough and they'll hit.

The solution so that I can use PH4's: Rebore, forged pistons, modified rods with ARP bolts, race bearings, flowed cylinder head and valve springs.

That should be 183bhp.

For a bit extra I can use Catcams and see 190bhp.

And for even more I could see 204bhp if I added in solid lifters, forged h-beam rods, shims and retainers.

But 204bhp is pretty expensive. Could get a turbo conversion for that.

I'm very very tempted by the 190bhp setup. And if I ever did want 204bhp in the future, I've got 90% of the components.

Of course I could buy another car. But, I still love driving the 106 (both on and off track). It still makes me smile. It's great fun pwning "bigger" cars. And I know the 106. I know the gearbox is good, the suspension is good. There's no rust. And after the work, the engine will be in great condition.

It'll probably be very similar to this:



Oh and SatchShift is now ordered too.

Work will probably commence second week of July and take 2 weeks to complete.

Watch this space...

Your Satchshift Sir.....

Thank you kindly

Bit more progress today.

Pug1Off have a TU5JP4 engine in at the moment. So rather than taking my TU5J4 engine out and rebuilding it for 2 weeks, they're going to build up the other engine now and swap them over. Still going for 190bhp.

Work is scheduled for 16th July. Rolling road has been booked for live mapping.

Have had to add on a few more parts such as a Mocal oil cooler and been advised to run an organic clutch.

Will post up more specs when I get them.

Christ Dave, this was only a 1.4 last year, it's now going to be an ITB'd, Quafied, JP4'd beast! Cage next

I have to be honest I love your 106, it's a really suprising car on track and your doing a sterling job of making it even better....good work Dave!

You don't half move quick with your progress!

Another new engine! good work. Not really in the know of French engine codes so what's the difference between j4 and jp4?

I have a cage for sale

cyb3r wrote:

I have a cage for sale

Do it Dave

And also some corbeau sprints, with 106 subframes :p

We have a prelim completion date on our house, so cage will have to wait for sure now And remember I've got a sunroof!

HI mate, Its chris with the pug1off 306 rallye how is the car going? mine will be going in again at xmas for a cage and maybe some more power if i have the money.

Hi mate. Car is going well. Dropping it off at Pug1Off this weekend for the race engine to be built up and dropped in. Can't wait! Having the Pug1Off derv 206 for two weeks

What cage are you thinking of? Safety Devices or a bonkers custom cage?

not sure what yet will have to see how much they would cost and how much weight it would add as i still want a fast 1/4 mile time as well, Oh right have you mate thats call i will be going up again soon to sort the brakes out on mine as i cooked them this weekend but dont know how as they are ds2500 and the same discs as you have but will be going ds3000 next, just need to done before pugfest.

Torax Japan Sport discs and DS3000's are amazing. You shouldn't have any issues with that setup.

I was meant to ask Mark today if they were going to Pugfest and if I could tag along. But it's the day after I get the car back and unless they've managed to run it in properly, I won't be able to give it any beans.